Johan Loy (probably born Baden, Germany)
Johan Loy arrived in Philadelphia, PA on 6 September 1817 on the ship Christopher Gore, the same ship as Matthias Loy. Johan’s name appears in the first column of the ship list, while Mathias [sic] appears in the second column.
This Johan might be the same John Loy who was listed in the 1830 Hanover, Dauphin Co., PA census. In this John Loy household were: 1 male under 5, 2 males 5-under 10, 1 male 15-under 20, 1 male 20-under 30, 1 male 50-under 60, 1 female 5-under 10, 1 female 10-under 15, 1 female 20-under 30, 1 female 40-under 50. No slaves. Total in household: 10.
The 1840 Hanover, Dauphin Co., PA census gives John Loy household: 1 male 30-under 40, 1 female 30-under 40. No slaves. Total: 2. Next household is Joseph Loy household: 1 male 20-30. No slaves. Total in household: 1.
I have not fully researched this, so the rest of this is simply speculation. But it seems the Johan who arrived in 1817 might have been the male in the 50-under 60 year age group in the 1830 census. The John Loy in the 1840 census would have been too young (the oldest he could have been was 16, if age 39 in 1840) to have been listed as an adult on the 1817 passenger list.
One puzzling item is that the 1810 Hanover, Dauphin Co., PA census gives a John Ley. [In 1800 Andrew and Christian Ley had resided in Lebanon and Heidelburg Townships, respectively.] Could he have returned to Germany and Matthias have accompanied him on his return?? Or were these found in census altogether different branches of Loys, considering there were other Loy branches from other Loy immigrants settling in this region?